KKTO

Koffee_Kosmo

I gain just as much pleasure from this new addition the KKTO club as yourself  ;D And I am always available for advice and encouragement Just some points to remember Keep the total volume to a max of 9 liters 1) You will need a false floor or an insert from the KKTO shop + insulation 2) Use silicone tube to seal in any heat escaping and you will have a roaster to be proud of If you are married it will save it, if not? a future Mrs Brett H will be impressed  at how clean it roasts KK

Brett H

on 1313925365:

I gain just as much pleasure from this new addition the KKTO club as yourself  ;D And I am always available for advice and encouragement Just some points to remember Keep the total volume to a max of 9 liters 1) You will need a false floor or an insert from the KKTO shop + insulation 2) Use silicone tube to seal in any heat escaping and you will have a roaster to be proud of If you are married it will save it, if not? a future Mrs Brett H will be impressed  at how clean it roasts KK

Thanks Nic and Paul.  Marriage saved!  I've used a silicone bake wear cake mould cut out for the top of the pasta insert where the TO sits. It is a reasonable seal but not a perfect one. I insulated under the pot between it and the table for heat retention. Do I need a false floor also? I have a stainless pan perfect size that is for the dump (glass lid was smashed years ago and could never bring myself to throw it out) that would be light work for the grinder. Should I insulate under that also?  Thanks for all the help and the inspiration. Happy days!!!

Koffee_Kosmo

on 1313927706:

Thanks Nic and Paul.  Marriage saved!  I've used a silicone bake wear cake mould cut out for the top of the pasta insert where the TO sits. It is a reasonable seal but not a perfect one. I insulated under the pot between it and the table for heat retention.

Excellent give my regards to Mrs BH

on 1313927706:

Do I need a false floor also? I have a stainless pan perfect size that is for the dump (glass lid was smashed years ago and could never bring myself to throw it out) that would be light work for the grinder. Should I insulate under that also?  Thanks for all the help and the inspiration. Happy days!!!

If you want to get to the batch size that KKTO owners get, the answer is yes to a false floor and insulation in the cavity My insert is made to have the correct volume when fitted to a depth on 10mm from the pot lip and engineered to have an air gap on the sides for added insulation For the air gap functionality, tests show that the temps inside the roaster can be 250 + C and outside its 80C   It will fit any 240mm pasta pot set http://koffeekosmo.com.au/Parts/25-Insulating-Liner/flypage.tpl.html KK

Koffee_Kosmo

Just putting out a call for help I want crema members to find a source of 24cm pasta pot sets Supplies have dried up as all I can find is the smaller 20cm type PM me with links please KK

Brett H

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Just putting out a call for help I want crema members to find a source of 24cm pasta pot sets Supplies have dried up as all I can find is the smaller 20cm type PM me with links please KK

I have seen them in The General Trader at Jindalee DFO.  They'd be worth a call.  If I find any firm availability I'll PM.

askthecoffeeguy

Well... After listening to what other folks have been saying about their roast times on the KKTO - and after some sage words of advice from Mr KK himself - I bit the bullet and bought a new turbo oven - as it seems that my old one was not up for the job! And what a difference a day makes! New 1400w halogen turbo element combined with some lovely Bali Danau Batar - and I'm up and running ! Was too excited to do my usual preheat - so I cranked around 700g of beans to 250C and ramped them till first crack at the 20min mark - then dropped the temp back to 200C and pulled the roast at about 20sec into second crack - at the 24 min mark I susspect that had I started with the preheat that i would've shaved a few minutes off the roast time - but even so 24mins is a great deal less than the 30plus mins I've been working with - and it's great to see everything cranking much earlier than what I'm used to Now to try the coffee as a filter at work in the morning to see if it lives up to expectation!

Koffee_Kosmo

Dont forget to use the high temp silicone tubes when the set arrives Also dont use the adapter ring and the times will come down under 20 min KK

Koffee_Kosmo

The design parameters of the KKTO is for the liner to reduce the volume so all available heat is used from the Turbo Oven in the most effective way for coffee roasting The liner is fitted inside the outer pot and is an important multi function part that acts in 4 ways It safely contains the insulation Insulates by a measured air gap on the side Reduces the overall volume in the roast chamber It achieves the correct volume matched to the available heat produced by the Turbo Oven KK

Brett H

I find with my unit that if I use tha Thaw setting for preheat then it doesn't take the preheat bean temp up o 50degC.  Does anyone else have to use a setting higher than Thaw to get to preheat temp?

Koffee_Kosmo

on 1317873243:

I find with my unit that if I use the Thaw setting for preheat then it doesn't take the preheat bean temp up o 50degC.  Does anyone else have to use a setting higher than Thaw to get to preheat temp?

If you do a KKTO stabilizing pre roast (with beans) you can go as high as 125 deg C for a short time Then "zero" the time once pre roast is completed and start the roast proper If you pre heat the roaster (without beans) you can go as high as 250 deg C KK

GaryatGala

Have well and truly joined the KKTO mob. Roasted 4 kg since getting it set up. Wrapped with fire blanket and bath towel. A photo here of the first roasted batch of the Ministry Grounds House Blend. Tastes great and pours nicely after a 3 day rest. Using a Homewell Halogen turbo oven bought from Homeart for $39.50. Getting 1st crack at 17-18 min, 2nd crack at 25-27 minutes, though i'm reassured the slow long roast has resulted in a smooth and well flavoured cup. Due to the seemingly long roast times, i use KK's advice of pre-heating at 250 deg for 5 minutes, then add beans and use full power all the way til the end. Could not hear first or second crack, and had to use visual to gauge what stage the beans are. Hoping to sort out the DMM logging sorted out if anyone can give me the link of the spade connecting probe. I don't fancy drilling a hole thru the side for the stainless steel probe, prefer to use the spade type fed from the lip of the roaster. So far very happy with the results of this roaster, though i'd like to learn more about getting the best out of this.

Koffee_Kosmo

Excellent news Gary It will take a little practice & familiarity with the system After you know your roaster and work in unison with it then its second nature I have PMed you the link  KK

Lacehim

Gary what size of green are you doing? I had the same issue with hearing the snaps of 1c and 2c but can hear them now.  Just takes some getting used to it. Gals your having fun.  I know Kelsey is itching to get his running

Kelsey

I.T.C.H.I.N.G  :stir

GaryatGala

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Gary what size of green are you doing? I had the same issue with hearing the snaps of 1c and 2c but can hear them now.  Just takes some getting used to it. Gals your having fun.  I know Kelsey is itching to get his running

Hi Lacehim, I'm currently doing 600gm greens to get 500 gm browns so that they fit in the 500gm one way valve bags. If i;m going to do multiple roasts, i will try the recommended optimum size of 700gm greens. Btw, i'm not a gal, so sorry to disappoint you  :D Kelsey, i was in the same boat as you, so i understand what you're going through, but eventually those feeling will be long gone when you get your hands on them. Gary at G

Lacehim

Just a heads up if anyone is interested, ALDI have a Lumina Turbo Oven on special for $32.99.  Bargain.  1400W power too.  On sale from Wed 07 March here in SE QLD & Northern NSW.

GaryatGala

Thanks Lacehim, I'll see if they have it online. No Aldi here in WA.

UNM

Took a look at aldi TO's, today. Now I understand how the TO is mounted on the main pot and why it is smaller diameter, I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to: buy an aluminum pot of correct  diameter remove TO unit from glass pot lid it comes with Cut a hole in the metal pot lid Remount TO on this a sight glass and bean testing scoop would be useful while cutting things, but I rarely roast by sight these days.

Koffee_Kosmo

Not sure of your minds eye Do a drawing so I can see where you are going with this Having said that - I have designed a reducer / adapter ring KK

UNM

on 1332403050:

Not sure of your minds eye Do a drawing so I can see where you are going with this

I doubt a drawing would help in this case (especially given my drawing skills).Will try to explain differently. Goal - avoid the need for reducer ring. As delivered, TO has: a glass pot (not needed) A TO unit consisting of electrical bits and glass pot lid with nice big hole in the middle. The actual electrical heart of the unit is fully enclosed and mounted to the glass portion by screws, mounting plate and gasket. Why not swap the large glass lid for a smaller metal one that is designed to fit the roasting chamber selected?

Koffee_Kosmo

on 1332406009:

I doubt a drawing would help in this case (especially given my drawing skills).Will try to explain differently. Goal - avoid the need for reducer ring. As delivered, TO has: a glass pot (not needed) A TO unit consisting of electrical bits and glass pot lid with nice big hole in the middle. The actual electrical heart of the unit is fully enclosed and mounted to the glass portion by screws, mounting plate and gasket. Why not swap the large glass lid for a smaller metal one that is designed to fit the roasting chamber selected?

How will you address 1) Volume parameters in the roast chamber that need to be strictly adhered to 2) Insulation needs to be added to reduce heat loss 3) Perforated Insert needs to be manufactured 4) Drive & motor system for a agitation Its a simple design bit it needs to be put together right KK

UNM

Just for the sake of this thought exercise, suppose I had all parts of a standard TO kit and made this one change. Any reason not to?

Koffee_Kosmo

on 1332409074:

Just for the sake of this thought exercise, suppose I had all parts of a standard TO kit and made this one change. Any reason not to?

If its this one change - then the adapter ring will do that job It will fit on pots from 24 cm to 31 cm KK

UNM

on 1332409454:

If its this one change - then the adapter ring will do that job It will fit on pots from 24 cm to 31 cm KK

Point is, the adapter ring seems unnecessary to me (and I don't like the aesthetics). So why is it there in the first place (Apart from allowing non DIY types to put everything together easily.)? Does it fulfill any other function

Koffee_Kosmo

on 1332409938:

Point is, the adapter ring seems unnecessary to me (and I don't like the aesthetics). So why is it there in the first place (Apart from allowing non DIY types to put everything together easily.)? Does it fulfill any other function

I designed it to have 3 functions - It also holds on to the TO and because of this it becomes one unit Now to the functions 1) It can be used to marry a variety of diameter pots & if necessary it can be used inverted (both ways) 2) It can be used to facilitate other types of heat sources or dual heat To further explain -  It can be used in conjunction with a round electric fry pan with single or dual heat sources 3) It is a safety devise to rest the TO in a safe cradle KK

Brett H

For those looking for a cheap Turbo Oven look no further: http://www.dealsdirect.com.au/eurolab-convection-oven-multi-cooker-1/?utm_source=Daily&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=DD_DLY_20121108_Thursday

Kelsey

I've been meaning to ask KK - are you still having trouble sourcing pot sets? KMart recently had the right type in their home brand - not sure about the right size tho. Fairly cheap too - about $30 from memory.

Koffee_Kosmo

on 1352355314:

I've been meaning to ask KK - are you still having trouble sourcing pot sets? KMart recently had the right type in their home brand - not sure about the right size tho. Fairly cheap too - about $30 from memory.

Yes we are still having issues with suitable pot sets Thanks I will look into it Edit - have found nothing on the K Mart AU site KK

Kelsey

Check this baby out. 24cm, $25. Plastic handles tho.

Brett H

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Check this baby out. 24cm, $25. Plastic handles tho.

I don't see any image when I tap on the link mate.