Wanting to purchase freash Roasted beans looking for recomendations

C-man

the tastes we like is;

super Sweet,  syrupy, Nutty, and caramel and toffee is OK too

we don't want ;

Earthy, fruity, Chocolate or spicy and any raisin


Any Ideas

Lacehim

C-Man, You've got some great local roasters here on the coast, little cove, clandestino roasters, pioneer etc.  Talk to them, tell them what you want, see what they say. Otherwise, try mycuppa, or Ministry Grounds . Sounds like you know what you want/like, so shouldn't be too hard to match a few beans.

C-man

yeah, we have a new one in Coolum too  fuddpukka's but nothing great I was hoping for suggestions from the sponsors too

Lacehim

C-Man, They are just another chain.  Never been there, and I haven't heard great reviews so I stayed away.  They use a fluid bed roaster of sorts but the look of the roaster in the window, which would have to be automated.  Stick with the local boutique roasters that know how to roast, rather than just put some beans in and press a button! Really what you want is for the lovely guys and gals on this forum to suggest some beans to you that tick all your boxes, and find someone that sells them roaster, or buy some green and roast them up.

derrilex

He can always hit you up too Lacehim  :D :D

Brett H

on 1346819610:

the tastes we like is; Sweet,  syrupy, Nutty, and caramel we don't want ; Earthy, fruity, Chocolate or spicy Any Ideas?

try this.... i really want too: http://www.mycuppa.com.au/Sumatra-Lake-Tawar.html I've had four of Jeff's Coffees recently due to the bean swap and every one was outstanding.  This should be on every coffee lover's bucket list irrespective of taste preference just because it is so amazing:http://www.mycuppa.com.au/BERRY-APOCALYPSE.html

C-man

try this.... i really want too: http://www.mycuppa.com.au/Sumatra-Lake-Tawar.html I've had four of Jeff's Coffees recently due to the bean swap and every one was outstanding. This should be on every coffee lover's bucket list irrespective of taste preference just because it is so amazing:http://www.mycuppa.com.au/BERRY-APOCALYPSE.html yeah, I have been considering the Lake Tawar one for some time, it all sounds good except for the hints of rasin The other one I would like, but the Mrs does not want so fruity, she prefers more nutty

C-man

Looking at this one too, http://www.mycuppa.com.au/Ethiopia-Sidamo-EH500W511.html This part suits me to the ground:   (This coffee is a standout quality bean. It's is massively sweet, has a wonderful syrupy finish that lingers for ages, sticking to the insides of your mouth.) we love sweetness, syrupy and a long finish, we just need to trade the fruit for the nut taste somehow.

C-man

I should mention we use Milk in the cup.

C-man

C-Man, They are just another chain.  Never been there, and I haven't heard great reviews so I stayed away.  They use a fluid bed roaster of sorts but the look of the roaster in the window, which would have to be automated.  Stick with the local boutique roasters that know how to roast, rather than just put some beans in and press a button! Really what you want is for the lovely guys and gals on this forum to suggest some beans to you that tick all your boxes, and find someone that sells them roaster, or buy some green and roast them up. I agree, we found Kate at Pioneer to be the best roaster around here, but they only have a limited selection of beans.

Lacehim

on 1346827319:

He can always hit you up too Lacehim  :D :D

If you find a green you like C-man I'm happy to roast it for you.

C-man

thanks, I will look at green too Actually I like the sound of lots of different beans, it is the Mrs. that is  searching for that simple taste.

derrilex

Simple taste for her, complex for you. Easy. Tis the beauty of home roasting. Pick and play. You want to build yourself a roaster C-man. Roasting at the beach, nothing better I reckon. The issue with browns is how quickly they age. You will forever be ordering to keep up with demand. Build a roaster, get a variety of greens and roast on demand :thumb:

conikal

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C-Man, They are just another chain.  Never been there, and I haven't heard great reviews so I stayed away.  They use a fluid bed roaster of sorts but the look of the roaster in the window, which would have to be automated.  Stick with the local boutique roasters that know how to roast, rather than just put some beans in and press a button! Really what you want is for the lovely guys and gals on this forum to suggest some beans to you that tick all your boxes, and find someone that sells them roaster, or buy some green and roast them up. I agree, we found Kate at Pioneer to be the best roaster around here, but they only have a limited selection of beans.

C-man .. It makes reading the posts much less confusing if you use the "Quote" icon in reply like this, ..! 

C-man

I tried that, but it always disappears for some unknown reason. so I have to copy and paste

C-man

Lace- I stopped by "Fudge-packers" again today just because it is close and I was in the area, I talked with the owner and he said they are not a chain just them. they use 3 boutique small roasters so they can offer a wider range of beans, same little 6 grinder group as "little Cove"  but they have 25 beans that they rotate on the grind. I explained what I was looking for and he found a bag of green in the back that he said he would roast right now just for me and stop it short of some of the notes I did not want. and also gave me another bag as a free sample that he roasted the same way while I was there. I need to wait until Monday to try them. the search continues-

Koffee_Kosmo

on 1346897342:

I tried that, but it always disappears for some unknown reason. so I have to copy and paste

There is a specific quote button The trick is to position the strart of your text under the quote bars Even if you copy and paste it can be done By placing the text inside the quote section after you press the quote button ( the one that looks like a text balloon )

Just like this

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KK

C-man

on 1346898225:

There is a specific quote button The trick is to position the strart of your text under the quote bars Even if you copy and paste it can be done By placing the text inside the quote section after you press the quote button ( the one that looks like a text balloon ) KK

that's strange, usually it brings the quote up, then it quickly disappears but it worked this time.

FreshCoffee2

Ahhhh yeah.....narhhhhhh. Wading again into something that is sure to get me in trouble for being if nothing else, bluntly honest: Look, re the topic itself. Realistically......anyone willing to supply you their fresh roasted product and guarantee what you are looking for is off their face and is looking down the barrel of a very difficult situation. EG, they supply you something you like as per post #1 in the topic. You try.....and disagree, saying it is the opposite and represents one of the things you didnt want....No win. And wrt the post re Fudgewhateveritscalled, finding a bag out the back and roasting it to your spec. on the spot. How convenient, and they have all the answers.....Gimme a break. I dont see you being happy with anyone elses offerings. You cant (in my honest opinion) buy coffee from a roaster according to your specifications......rather, I think you (we) buy someone's offering and then appreciate it for what it is/. Not trying to be facetious...this is deadly serious and I personally have only 27 years experience roasting. What you are looking for is unbelievably narrow and very specific to your taste, and as others have tried to do above, I would like to recommend you start roasting at home to try and get what you want. You will have a great deal of fun and can knock yourself out trying whatever you like long term. It will turn into an all consuming and really great hobby. Hope that helps, and I do hope you find what you are looking for. Attilio very first Crema site sponsor.

mycuppa

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Ahhhh yeah..... wading again into something that is sure to get me in trouble for being if nothing else, bluntly honest: Look, re the topic itself. Realistically......anyone willing to supply you their fresh roasted product and guarantee what you are looking for is off their face and is looking down the barrel of a very difficult situation. EG, they supply you something you like as per post #1 in the topic. You try.....and disagree, saying it is the opposite and represents one of the things you didnt want..... No win. And wrt the post re Fudgewhateveritscalled, finding a bag out the back and roasting it to your spec. on the spot. How convenient, and they have all the answers.....Gimme a break. Not trying to be facetious...this is deadly serious and I personally have only 27 years experience roasting. What you are looking for is unbelievably narrow and very specific to your taste, and as others have tried to do above, I would like to recommend you start roasting at home to try and get what you want. You will have a great deal of fun and can knock yourself out trying whatever you like long term. It will turn into an all consuming and really great hobby. I dont see you being happy with anyone elses offerings. Hope that helps, and enjoy.

Gee A.......we seem to be on the same page again.......that's co-incidentally what I also said (albeit my comment was very brief) to the the OP earlier today on email.

FreshCoffee2

Good evening J. I have interrupted an incredible risotto made by my long suffering to indulge in this past time here, and got myself in trouble (with her) for leaving for a short while to do this. And as stated above I may even get myself in trouble here, except apparently from your good self! Others are being very kind indulging this but I feel it serves no purpose to allow the "world wide web" and the forums themselves to give people the wrong impression about things. That is how BS is perpetrated around, and we all know my feelings on that. Back to my risotto now  

Koffee_Kosmo

Mmmmmmmm Risoto I like Risoto but not to salty KK Sorry spell check as per post below Risotto , Risotto I love Risotto

FreshCoffee2

arrh yeah.....risotto has 2 T's K  And yeah we are also watching a jamie oliver cooking show with him throwing a shovel full of salt at something he's making. He's actually making something incredible (my opinion), but the amount of salt he used is BS, and we all know my feelings on that score ! Ps Jeff: I was busy editing my original post and when I went in with the last edit you had appeared with a quote of the previous version. No harm done just so you know I didnt edit it on purpose after you quoted it! Back to jamie oliver now....

askthecoffeeguy

I would also like to add that taste is a very subjective thing - what is fruity to some is nutty to others and to start putting such narrow definitions on preferred flavour profiles  both elimiantes a wide range of coffee tasting experiences, and does no credit to the roaster I am yet to see two coffee roasters get the same profile from the same beans -  similar maybe, but not the same - which leads me to think that there are a multitude of variables inherent in every bean I would say that in this instance experience and variety is the key to success - keep trying different roasts until you find something that you like then stick with that profile / region Cheers Pat (signing in from Ubud in Bali where I had a sensational coffee today locally grown and roasted !)

C-man

on 1346934312:

A.      :thumb: I think that many still cling to the belief that 1+1=2 when it comes to coffee. The closest I can come to an analogy for this topic / first post is along the lines of the following. "Person goes to a average paint shop and wants a paint to match a colour they have seen and verbally describes something akin to "White" . After that every thing goes awry.  And the reason is that, as with coffee, there are 1001 pigments and every suppliers has their own special pigments and that even after Bunnings uses a machine to try to identify said pigments.  Unless all the exact details are know, even then its not 100%, and only then will a close match be found.  And that is due to an exact science being applied via a dedicated device. " OUTCOME: Fruity / nutty and other definitions by one party is never going to be a 100% match to another's definition/perception. Then add in the grinder / machine / user and 1+ 1 = 2 is totally out the door as to ordering a roast over the counter with an exacting profile to suit ones special requirements. That is not to say that a good roaster can not develop a blend and have the client perform the QC and agree to a final bean/roast profile to what they like.  And even then, consistence over time will always be a battle due to many ongoing variables. But a custom blend is very different to purchasing "over the counter with high expectations" as to what one might be assuming; is going to end up in the cup. PS. Have had the same company make same paint with same profile and yet still had to re-paint a whole room because of subtle differences.  Yes, even 6 month to a year and changes that take place when the paint ages means it can not be matched 100%    :o

Being a builder I can relate to that! White paint, no problem.

UNM

on 1346924124:

Ahhhh yeah.....narhhhhhh. Wading again into something that is sure to get me in trouble for being if nothing else, bluntly honest: [snip snip] Not trying to be facetious...this is deadly serious and I personally have only 27 years experience roasting.

perhaps then you should refrain from posting opinions until you have mastered the art of roasting to the  customers requirements... I am not a huge fan of emoticons but the above really requires a couple of :stir:stir Nice troll A. Should kick off some lively debate. Edit: catching up on the thread with my tiny phone screen, I see it already has sparked some debate. FYI, when I lived in the USofA, the term fudgepacker was used as a derogatory term for people who enjoyed a particular sexual practice. I would avoid a coffee supplier calling themselves fudgepackers.

FreshCoffee2

More from The Risotto Diaries.....and having had my 2 cuppas this morning to start the day/  From the usual "internet pedia": "....In Internet slang, a troll is ........yarte yarte yarte........and.......The noun troll may (also) refer to (a) provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."..." ...Quote UNM: "Nice troll A. Should kick off some lively debate.   :D  :D Unfortunately, provocative posts dont always do that ( kick off lively debate)...they very often stifle it because not many feel the need to wade into the mire and get their hands dirty. Some more discussion (well on topic I feel). A question was asked here and criterion / specs were given (post #1). More info was given in a subsequent post, indicating the criterion / specs apparently need to come through milk based coffee (post #8). And, post #7 is a very good example of why roasters mix origins together to make

UNM

on 1347068482:

More from The Risotto Diaries.....and having had my 2 cuppas this morning to start the day/  From the usual "internet pedia": "....In Internet slang, a troll is ........yarte yarte yarte........and.......The noun troll may (also) refer to (a) provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."..." ...Quote UNM: "Nice troll A. Should kick off some lively debate.   :D  :D Unfortunately, provocative posts dont always do that ( kick off lively debate)...they very often stifle it because not many feel the need to wade into the mire and get their hands dirty.

It is oft forgotten that there are both good and bad trolls (like white and black witches). The term 'troll' was being used on a recent episode of ABC's Q&A to refer to people simply posting abusive messages on twitter and farcebook, completely inappropriate.

on 1347068482:

I guess this is a far bigger topic than C-man originally though he was getting into, wrt UNM Quote: "...perhaps then you should refrain from posting opinions until you have mastered the art of roasting to the  customers requirements..." I understand this was "tongue in cheek" but should still say that I dont believe anyone can roast to the requirements given in this topic (espec sundry fudge-persons that just conveniently happen to have that exact coffee out the back to roast up right now to the client spec....showing cynicism & disrespect for the client instead of being truthful/helpful and trying to educate), and I sincerely hope this helps. Happy to hear anyone elses opinion, presumably needs to be someone willing to spend the time (considerable) 

Glad you took the comment in the spirit it was intended. I am of the opinion that said fudgepackers were satisfying an immediate customer request. Nothing wrong with that. Perhaps they even did it well, but regardless - it was a business decision they are quite entitled to make and may be good for their bottom line. Obviously if the end result disappoints, then they don't get repeat business, but perhaps that is not their goal and they just wanted to close one additional sale. Time will tell. wrt single session cupping. I don't care - my memory is quite good enough for MY purposes. I know what I like and roast my own to meet that desire. One of my key aims is for variety and thankfully that is easy to achieve when roasting at home.  :coffee2: I have a relatively undeveloped palate (not pallet, or palette), but can't understand people who wax lyrical about all the different notes when less than a quarter of what they are drinking is coffee in a warm milk drink. Mind you, reformed milk drinkers like me can be just as irritating as reformed smokers and it wasn't that long ago I was swigging litres of milk a week, so I probably shouldn't get too high on my horse.

C-man

The latest out come is this: The roast he did was pretty much what he said it would be, he roasted to get the nutty taste and stopped it short of the of the notes it had that we did not want, so he was right in what he tried to do. Now she has decided that her specific asks have created a boring cup of nutty coffee! hows that for a laugh!

FreshCoffee2

Afraid not C-man, I'm not buying that, and I will have one last shot in this thread before leaving it be..... If you (anyone) roast a "soft" coffee to no particular roasting profile and simply stop it so as not to burn it, and start brewing and drinking it before it has settled and developed, you get a "baked" effect with no character (because it hasnt developed any yet). This I guess is what you are probably referring to as "nutty". If you then make milk coffees with that, you get brown, characterless milk ergo...your wife's comment. Which also introduces the old discussion of what constitutes "fresh coffee". The roast is certainly fresh, but what is the point of drinking it before it developes any character? That can only be answered according to anyone's *opinion* given what they like. I too occasonally like that kind of "nuttiness" (using your description) but I wouldnt "drown" it in milk and will appreciate it for what it is, which is a soft coffee that hasnt yet developed any character. There is not much skill in what's been done and if you like that you can do it at home as long as you drink it before it develops. The rest is up to you, and goodluck 

C-man

So true, early days yet for those beans hopefully more flavors will be yet to come. I taste it black and she likes it with milk.