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cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Sold the CCR, done the deal on the new toy.

Monday off to pick up the - silver streak? whooo ;D

Busy re-modelling a few things in the roastery this weekend in rediness for the pending arrival.

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Steep new learning curb about to happen, bit of overkill for a home roaster, naggghhhhh :thumb:

Chester

derrilex · April 2013

Awesome :thumb:

Koffee_Kosmo · April 2013

You two just never cease to amaze me cosmic couple KK

shape_shifter · April 2013

I actually quite like the while single colour material thing it's got going on. I also don't think it's over kill for a home roaster ;D

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Thanks KK Amanda and I have come a long way on our coffee journey since we met you at Chris,s shop havent we? Learning is what we want to do every day so just pushing our boundries at the moment. Chester

Ol Grumpy · April 2013

:bling :bling

Lacehim · April 2013

Nice roaster! Wow. We might have to have the next social at your place! :laugh:

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Full stainless steel, machined bearing houses, screws, everything, apart from the drum. Weighs 500 kilos, pretty heavy for a 5kg roaster. Lacehim, I suggested to Amanda we should have a roast day at my place for the sunnycoast crew and she reckoned half of Qld will show up if i advertise that here. :laugh:

Brett H · April 2013

What... Only half... Tell her she's dreaming! Congratulations on the stunning upgrade!

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Once I get it all plumbed into the roastery I will take a few photos and post them up. Then I will be chasing lots of advice, 1kg electric to 5kg gas is sure to have me a few teething problems.

Lacehim · April 2013

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Full stainless steel, machined bearing houses, screws, everything, apart from the drum. Weighs 500 kilos, pretty heavy for a 5kg roaster. Lacehim, I suggested to Amanda we should have a roast day at my place for the sunnycoast crew and she reckoned half of Qld will show up if i advertise that here. :laugh:

I think we only had 10 or so turn up at the last one I hosted so shouldn't be that bad. I'm only down at Peregian so not that far from you. When you get the hang of it and you want to show and tell let us know. The few Sunny Coasters would be interested I'm sure.

I'm bet your excited. Out of interest do you have a cafe, or sell beans or sell at the markets or anything? I just wondered why you upgraded to a 5kg

There seems to be heaps of roasters popping up selling beans at the markets lately.

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

No Lacehim, no cafe, do sell a few beans to friends and so but main reason for the purchase is, I want to learn to roast on a commercial machine with the view to moving overseas (South America) and starting up a roastery cafe in a couple of years. Will definitely have a show and tell when I get back from South America End of July. Chester

sholayer · April 2013

Hey Chester Wow, am very impressed, well, was impressed with number 1 (CCR) and now number 2 - outstanding. Congratulations to you and Amanda. You will have a great deal of fun with this and you certainly will learn a lot. Good on you, have a great trip too. Chris

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Thanks Sholayer Well Monday was a big day went to the Gold Coast to pick up the silver streak

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Brett H · April 2013

In my dreams there is one of these in the Sleep-out! Congratulations!

Koffee_Kosmo · April 2013

Woooo Hoooo I need to wear sunglasses to see what I am roasting And a fedora hat because its cool Good luck and happy roasting KK

Koffee_Kosmo · April 2013

For some profiles on the shiny new thing Try contacting Brenden from Bean Green I notice that they have an association with Coffee Roasters Australia as they offer a CRA starte pack of Green Beans I have read the info of your Centre 309 here - http://www.centertek.com/products_con.aspx?cid=C_00000011&cpid=C_00000002&pid=P_00000042&pn= They have an RS-232 cable Good times ahead KK

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Thanks KK I have to get an usb to rs232 adaptor that suits windows 7. The cheap ones don't work with w7, as I found out today. :head: Tomorrows mission is to find a ftdi chipped cable :-| then hopefully get the datalogger set up and have a play on the silver streak. Teething problems , can't have a new toy without teething problems.

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Data logger up and working now, talkiing to Artisan nicely

. Tonight I installed the cooling tray fan vent hose, took it straight out the wall through a self opening vent and into the garden. Nothing too hot comes out of here so no fire risk, but will save a lot of mess in the roastery. 3 x 2kg roasts done so far with the results being, 1st scorched, 2nd better but to much dry back resulting in no body and lifeless, 3rd starting to get closer to a drinkable product (roasted yesterday) will find out in a couple of days but think I still had a little to much air running. 15kg of green on it's way from Brendan, Indonesia Sulawesi Toraja, PNG Kimel A, Kenya Thiaru Estate AA. So will have a good bash on the weekend. More coffee than I can drink, so if I find I manage a decent roast I will have to send some to the sunny coast crew for feedback. If you guys are interested that is. :thumb: Chester

FreshCoffee2 · April 2013

Good luck and enjoy the journey. The three coffees you bought are individually, great coffees and in terms of learning to use the roaster, represent "safe" roasting ie they are very good quality well graded beans that will roast evenly and make the job easier for you as you learn the roasts etc. But they are pretty much similar to eachother in terms of what they will do in the drum. In terms of blowing a few kgs on the operational learning curve, you will (I think) want to roast some coffees that differ. The easiest contrasts that come to mind, would be to roast say, the Kenya, and roast an Indian A grade or a Brazilian. You will find they require different roasting styles. Also, if you are going to "waste" a lot of coffee to learn how to use the roaster, why use expensive coffees. Instead of the above, nothing wrong with using a nice FAQ PNG Y grade, and a simple Brazil Santos (for comparison of roasting styles as mentioned above). Plus you could throw in something like a "lowly" djimmah for a real comparison of differences! In any case they will all make great drinking regardless. Throw something interesting in man ! Also from my point of view, the three coffees you have are all individually, great coffees.....but I dont see much scope for blending. Next time you order, why not see if you can get some coffees that will complement eachother in blending, so that you are not restricted to SO's, and can progress to blend development down the track ( which you can start with, with the other coffees I've mentioned just to get your toes wet). Hope that helps, A.

Lacehim · April 2013

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More coffee than I can drink, so if I find I manage a decent roast I will have to send some to the sunny coast crew for feedback. If you guys are interested that is. :thumb:

I'm sure we all would be!

Glad your having fun!

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Thanks for the advice Fresh Coffee. I agree totaly, only way to learn for me is boots and all so I will chat to BeanGreen and see what vastly different reacting cheaper beans they have and get 20kg of sacrificial lambs errr beans :D. Do people think I hould be developing my skills using larger batches then working it back to suit smaller batches once i have dialled in? Or is working on learning the nuances with 2kg loads and smaller fine? Hopefully soon Lacehim but probably a little more of :pan and :doh: maybe even a little :head: but I am having fun. :thumb:

askthecoffeeguy · April 2013

wow - that's a fantastic looking piece of equipment! I'd be lying if I said I wasnt a tiny bit jealous ! cant wait to learn more about your roasting experience with this great looking and very functional roaster! Cheers, ACg

FreshCoffee2 · April 2013

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Thanks for the advice Fresh Coffee. ...........Do people think I hould be developing my skills using larger batches then working it back to suit smaller batches once i have dialled in? Or is working on learning the nuances with 2kg loads and smaller fine?...........

You're welcome, and thank you

As an individual I prefer to work out a new roaster at its rated batch size, so if its a 5 kilo batch then that's what I would do (as that is in the end what it is designed to do, so that is where it should be properly efficient). Also if you dont use the rated batch size, you wont know if it is set up properly. An actual example: A couple of years ago I was kind of mentoring a new micro roasting business with advice. He had bought a new roasting machine, but it took ages to roast the full rated batch (a slow cook rather than a roast) and was only efficient if he dropped the batch size down to about 3/4 size. If you dont use full batch sizes, you wont work all that out at the onset, and there is no point having say a 5 kilo machine, that may only roast say 3 kg efficiently, in which case it means there is something wrong with the set up of the machine (note, usually only happens on low end machines). In any case I work out my roasters on full batch size, and then work backwards to convenient sized smaller batches.... However, others opinions may differ, and that's ok. Whatever works for you.

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Thanks again Fresh Coffee, taken onboard all the advice. Have ordered Monte Alegre Estate - Natural Indian Monsoonal Malabar AA Mexican Finca Kassandra Scr 16/18 Peru - Fundo Santa Martha Organic 5kg of each so with the other 15kg I hopefully will have enough to play with . Hope this offers me some variance too ? Chester

mycuppa · April 2013

Put the Kenyan and the MM aside for a later time they are not relevant and represent perhaps well below 1% of the coffee roasted in Aus. In the early days When you can't understand and control the reach and range of a new roaster Playing with a high acid bean or a low moisture/low density bean will only confuse your knowledge and experience. Focus on beans with soft acidity and balance - Indian plantation A, png, Colombian supremo, quality sumatran The number 1 epic failure I see when tasting other roaster's coffees is the acid balance. This is all about roasting skill and less about bean selection. As per FC advice - run at designed charge and then work backwards. Always remember that If you worry about the cost of throwing out beans on learning and developing your skills then you are in the wrong business. I threw out 200kg last week after changes to burner configuration and automation software. It hurts but you just have to suck it up!

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

Thanks mycuppa realy appreciate your input. No worries here about throwing out good quality (but badly treated

) beans. Hope it doesn't take me 200kgs on a 5kg roaster to get dialled in though. But quite expecting 50kg of learning to occure. I will treat my roasting journey no different than pulling a shot, if its not perfect its going down the sink :thumb:. Was suggested to buy low price Robusta but I don't think that supports my learning? Thats whats great about these forums, people from the industry willing to share their wisdom and opinions along side the experienced and not so. Thanks to everyone for their support. Chester

FreshCoffee2 · April 2013

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.....expecting 50kg of learning to occur... ...Was suggested to buy low price Robusta but I don't think that supports my learning? Thats whats great about these forums, people from the industry willing to share their wisdom and opinions along side the experienced and not so. Thanks to everyone for their support...

Chester, if you can learn how to roast coffee in ten batches (50 kilo) you better come down here and work for me. I'll leave you the keys, and I'm goin fishin ! ;D Yes, throwing something into your machine that bears absolutely no relationship to what you will roast with it in the main when you are up and running, will not help your cause. Who uses low price robusta, and do you want to be there? However, you dont necessarily need to be roasting the qualities (read price) of coffee you have selected so far, to learn with. Jeff has given you very good advice in that regard. A.

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

:rofl: I see the error of my ways, but I do hope to be dialled in a little more than I am now after putting 50kgs in the silver streak. Trying to revamp profiles from the 1kg to the ss isn't working for me so going to take yours and mycuppas advice FC and throw 5 kgs in and use a profile that has been kindly forwarded to me as a guide and see what ends up in the cup and do it all again and again. Never meant I would be a master roaster at the end of 50kg would be more of a master#%#@## if i thought that was possible. Get dialled in, then practice being consistent and repeatable then start to try different things. Well thats the plan. Chester

cosmic_couple22 · April 2013

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Koffee_Kosmo · April 2013

I commend you on the great roasting station and bean storage :thumb: Again I would need polarising sunglasses to see my way around :angel: KK

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