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Wanting to purchase freash Roasted beans looking for recomendations

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  • Brett HBrett H
    What a fantastic thread this turned out to be.  I'm quite shocked that a coffee roaster of the calibre of Fresh Coffee would recommend a newbie take up home roasting to satisfy a quite specific list of characters; however, having read on I see his genius at work.  Get to it C-Man.  A popper and a couple of kilos of beans will SAVE you money (providing you don't walk away mid-roast and burn the house down) and once you have a few kg under your belt your coffee world will be a much richer place.  You'll be surprised by how much what you taste and desire to taste changes over the years anyway so get out and taste as much as you can as cheaply as you can.  Signed, BH drinking a Finca El Injerto home roasted short black extracted at 92deg... OMGosh... spicy chocolate MANGO!?! Get to it C-Man... it's like wine but you can operate heavy machinery and no hangover!!!
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  • C-manC-man
    Funny guy Brett! I will start roasting again after I find what beans we like. I feel the best way to sample them is to have them professionally roasted first so I know what to shoot for. Seems the moral of this story is, Coffee is Coffee and We can not be so specific about flavors,
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  • C-manC-man
    you guys need to realize I am just a newbie, I may ask for advice on things like this that just can't be done without realizing it until now.
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  • Ol GrumpyOl Grumpy
    I'm glad someone mentioned that our own tastes mature and change over time... The coffee I would die for daily now is so very different to what I used to kill for only a few years ago.... I'm seriously wondering why no one has mentioned blending beans to get the desired tweak in flavor? Perhaps it was assumed? I don't like to assume. BTW, FWIW, just a couple of months ago I enjoyed a 5 star long weekend at Coolum Beach and because my boy is a clumsy clutz and sliced his foot open on the rocks... Requiring stitches... Well Freddy Fudpuckers is directly over the road from the medical clinic... For my money, if you can't find a coffee you like from the 25 odd bean varieties on offer well maybe you'd be happier on a more snobbish forum than this one??? I mean really? Or should I say, "get real". There's no justifiable reason to trash them as it appears some are want to do. ( am I showing my age with that backwards awkwardenglish?) Like C-man I too am a declared noob in the world of 'fine coffee' and I've much to learn.  One thing I've picked up on pretty quickly is that the quest for coffee perfection is a never ending journey where the very destination you seek is constantly changing... There are no absolutes, so chill out and enjoy the ride... I know I am... Chilled and enjoying the ride, that is.... OG
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  • C-manC-man
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    try this.... i really want too: http://www.mycuppa.com.au/Sumatra-Lake-Tawar.html I've had four of Jeff's Coffees recently due to the bean swap and every one was outstanding.  This should be on every coffee lover's bucket list irrespective of taste preference just because it is so amazing:http://www.mycuppa.com.au/BERRY-APOCALYPSE.html
    Brett, I just ordered both of those beans, can't wait to try them!
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  • Brett HBrett H
    on 1347262338:
    Brett, I just ordered both of those beans, can't wait to try them!
    BRILLIANT!  Let us know how you go in the "What am I drinking now" thread.  There is lots of willing help here and while we don't always agree, we have a lot of fun disagreeing and trying new stuff! :thumb:
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  • C-manC-man
    on 1347156280:
    Afraid not C-man, I'm not buying that, and I will have one last shot in this thread before leaving it be..... If you (anyone) roast a "soft" coffee to no particular roasting profile and simply stop it so as not to burn it, and start brewing and drinking it before it has settled and developed, you get a "baked" effect with no character (because it hasnt developed any yet). This I guess is what you are probably referring to as "nutty". If you then make milk coffees with that, you get brown, characterless milk ergo...your wife's comment. Which also introduces the old discussion of what constitutes "fresh coffee". The roast is certainly fresh, but what is the point of drinking it before it developes any character? That can only be answered according to anyone's *opinion* given what they like. I too occasonally like that kind of "nuttiness" (using your description) but I wouldnt "drown" it in milk and will appreciate it for what it is, which is a soft coffee that hasnt yet developed any character. There is not much skill in what's been done and if you like that you can do it at home as long as you drink it before it develops. The rest is up to you, and goodluck  ;)
    It is a Nicaragua Matagalpa that he tried to roast just a tad short of what he said where it would develop some kind of lemon notes that I did not want. It was roasted on the 6/9 so it is only about 5 days now, a little more flavors are coming now and still a nutty sort of Almond taste I guess, smooth yet still kind of boring but getting better. still early days I guess. the beans are so big they only just fit into my grinder.
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  • FreshCoffee2FreshCoffee2
    aha. As I suspected said supplier picked a safe bet for you, yes ok in a black, but I wouldnt go doing it in milk. Over time your palate and appreciation will change (it always does) and you will go looking for more (much more) character in your cup. Its a natural progression, and you will look back and wonder at the journey. ;)
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  • C-manC-man
    I am really liking straight shots if the coffee is good, does that mean I am hooked? will I become a coffee junky?
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  • LacehimLacehim
    on 1347350318:
    does that mean I am hooked?
    No, you joined a forum and have a $300 hand grinder, you are already hooked!
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    will I become a coffee junky?
    There is no turning back now C-man!  You already are one by the sound of it! :)
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  • FreshCoffee2FreshCoffee2
    on 1347350318:
    ...I am really liking straight shots if the coffee is good....
    You could be under a misunderstanding there... From what we have read in this topic you are "normally" a milk coffee drinker. Its great that you have, in the context of all that's been written here, taken the advice to try it black. The milk has a smoothing effect on coffee (if done properly) and many that come off milk coffee to go black especially espresso, dont necessarily take to the change in mouth feel and new character on the palate very well. Its usually manifested in comments like "....the coffee's too strong..." (where "Strength" per se, is another quite different issue).  In order to ease yourself into black (especially espresso) then, firstly you may try coffee that brews up into a mellow kind of thing and from there over time, as you get used to the quite normal character of black coffee, you would start to go outside that square and try different things. The attributes in coffee that you commented at first you do NOT like such as "earthy, fruity, chocolate, spicy", and many more that you didnt mention, are attributes of some very fine coffees to be appreciated in a well roasted, well rounded, well brewed wet coffee, however at this stage of your journey in coffee, especially in a black coffee, they may confuse a palate that is not used to them. Ergo, you may at first choose origins that some us may think are a little too mellow in terms of (not) having buckets full of character, nevertheless they are nice coffees and will serve the purpose well for you at this time. Add to that, that if you brew an espresso well (including with coffees that are known to be quite "big") it will be well balanced (if strong) and that balance will tend to smooth it out in your mouth, but if you brew it badly, it will definitely seem to be far too strong and unpleasant...and that of course is not the fault of the beans. Your comment then isnt really about enjoying black coffee "if the coffee is good". Its about easing your palate into black through using coffees that are shall we say mellow (& even "underdeveloped" in terms of cupping them virtually straight off the roasting equipment) rather than using other really great coffees that are "big with well developed character"....that simply dont suit your transition at this time! Hope that helps. Attilio very first Crema site sponsor.
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  • C-manC-man
    Great comments! Fresh Coffee The coffee I have now is just boring to say the least, but OK only because I have nothing else at the moment. My original comments of what I did not want have now already changed as you said they would. I don't care so much for this Nicaragua one black, but I was given a shot at the cafe of a Yirgy blend that really rocked my world! It had not bitterness at all, and was very fruity and delicious and even as it cooled it actually kept getting better and better! I was very surprised as I had never drank black before and loved it better than any coffee I ever had with milk.  he gave me enough beans for a shot and I took them home and I was able to reproduce the exact same double shot again, Delicious! so my skills are up to scratch with the right beans. I try Nicaragua at home and with these beans I need to add a little milk to cut the bitterness made the same way. Maybe I need a different grind for these beans who knows? Modify message
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  • C-manC-man
    Opps! sorry about that I guess figured the grind gets finer as the beans age? why should the dose change? I thought dose was just the distance from the shower head?
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  • KelseyKelsey
    A finer grind will compact more on tamping. So the dose needs to increase slightly to stay the same volume in the basket.
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  • C-manC-man
    Thanks Kelsey, I do that without thinking, I always keep the same fullness in the basket I just don't measure the beans other than the shot glass I use to fill the hand grinder, but I understand better know. Also as the grind get finer I have to soften the tamp.
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