CCR-1kg Coffee Roaster

john0061 · June 2012

;D no worries, nothing matters. no much margin selling this, so you see on ebay just accepting orders, because dont want buy it over then sell, i have no... , my money now being invested on some other areas. :D those 2 roasters came from with other cargos in a full container, so frt a bit saved. for such weight machine, if import singlely, about $1200+ fees. long time ago, sold a similar weight machine to Goldcoast, i remember about 1.1k fees, and that machine only invoiced 0.7k. much less than this roaster, means more gst and duty. you from Toowoomba ? impression is, it's a beautiful garden like city, cause saw lots of flowers and greens when driving by. and Please don't say have NO money, maybe just kidding, maybe you're a secret millionaire already, but somehow this kind of feeling will sneak into your subconscious mind, which literally controls your life. if it get info about poor, then it will attract poverty, or the other way around. whatever it gets, it will manifest it. so say to yourself loudly, "i'm a multi-millionaire, you have tons of money..." laster on you ll see the effect in good ways. this is all about coffee machines, but i d like to post out a ebook, historic classic one, " think and grow rich". if you follow it, i believe you can buy off whatever roasters you want. if this is okay, later will post on some other good ones. well, the book exceeds the file limit, instead post another good one, " you were born rich. "

mycuppa · June 2012

Timbo - sorry for the delay in congratulations on the purchase of your new equipment - finally, it's not an espresso machine or a grinder. Well done mate ! The results from the pics look very good so early on and your roast profile curves have all the right signs of what we would expect to target with drum-type equipment - turning point inside 3 mins, good linear ramp and a tapering finish. My suggestion is to perhaps look for a shorter roast time with similar shape of profile curve by playing around with charge weight, drop temp and your early heat settings (more heat from say 4 - 8 mins. See what difference knocking say 3 - 4 mins off the overall roast time does to the cup character (fruit and brightness). However, don't be blinded by the mythical 15 min benchmark as this can vary from roaster to roaster, etc. Who knows, maybe a shorter time will do nothing for the cup outcome. The hardest part is waiting for bean development (7 - 10 days). Welcome to the club of impatience. What are you doing with your smoke ? are you running it though some fan-assisted makeup air to disperse ? JC

mycuppa · June 2012

I think the simplest method is to get one of those portable industrial fan blowers (about $200) and run some flexible hose so that the outlet of the roast smoke flows about 2-3 feet away from the inlet of the blower. As it picks up the smoke it will also gather about 80+% free air and mix the smoke with the free air resulting in some excellent disbursement of the concentrated smoke. The solution allows for a mobile operation so you can move it around depending upon the direction of the prevailing wind.

mycuppa · June 2012

I forgot to also add this type of solution can assist with roaster airflow as it aids the exhaust - I've seen it used on some roasters that have poor inherent airflow design.

galumay · June 2012

Damn, regretting coming over here to have a look at this thread thanks to your poking me on CS's!! I thought I was done with upgraditis and had nowhere to go, but shoot that looks like a damn fine bit of equipment. Gas is not really an option for me so this would be perfect. I like the idea that with next financial years new depreciation rules I could write the whole thing off in one hit too!

john0061 · June 2012

Then that's true I suppose, because the engineer told me that factory manager picked up some scrap metal from those residues, which left behind after making aircraft carriers. So I think that's the reason for hardness. :thumb:

Koffee_Kosmo · June 2012

That's a very thick piece of front panel metal BF Looks close to 10mm KK

UNM · June 2012

go arduino/tc4. you could even Bluetooth it if you wanted wireless data logging

UNM · June 2012

if space is tight, the tc4c is good, but I would suggest an arduino mega as the preferred controller if you have physical space. some apps are pushing the memory limit of the arduino and, while tweaking programs to optimize them is an option, a few dollars for the more powerful controller is cost effective. My Mega was $5 more than the base model. oh - there is also the option for the arduino to handle the heater and blower control functions. But that is probably best left until later, given everything currently works.

mycuppa · June 2012

Tim - I think your charge temp looks ok as you are reaching turning point exceptionally fast for a drum roaster (sub-2 mins). Generally speaking, charge temp has a relationship to the turning point, rather than overall roast duration (although it obviously affects that as well). Lifting it a little may introduce internal scorching of the bean due to the rapid fall/rise. As a guide, I generally use 200 but that's for my gear and it may not work on other types.

mycuppa · August 2012

Timbo, decafs have a habit of ramping too fast, regardless of the drop temp. Yes, lowering the drop temp will help dampen the ramp, but you need to think of decaf as perhaps a 0.7 of your normal batch. e.g. use around 70 - 80% of the energy Once you work out the metrics or factors for your different origins, varietals and processing type across various batch sizes, the good 'ol 3/4 rule for decaf works a treat ! Many a decaf was ramped too fast - even by the pros :-[

mycuppa · August 2012

Don't forget that higher airflow on most roasters = faster thermal rise time !

greenman · August 2012

I have been doing 200-300gram light roasts with good results on my Torrefattore so you should not have any problems doing the smaller batches--happy roasting!!!

B00sting · August 2012

Considering buying one of these with tax return money. For personal use and possibly as a way to begin a very small business (as a side income). Do you think the 1kg electric is a viable option for this? I noticed the seller on ebay but was questioning the legitimacy until I saw this thread. I've being trying to get into the roasting industry for 2 years with very little luck, may as well do it for myself!

(And yes I'm aware of the romantic notion remember I said 2 years!) Regards.

B00sting · August 2012

Thankyou for the welcome and reply bean. I have being roasting with a behmor for a couple of years. I'm not looking at even supplying a cafe, just a simple mail order for friends, family, and perhaps an ebay market. As i'm purchasing 20kg of green frequently it makes sense to upgrade from such a small capacity roaster to something a little bigger. To me this isn't necessarily a toy, though I understand it is compared to a 120kg industrial setup or something like that. And I suppose i'm attracted by the price. $4000ono isnt too bad considering the jump to 3kg is going to be more like 6-10k minimum (at a guess).

UNM · August 2012

Just thinking out loud here, so to speak. Even though it may not make commercial sense long term to use one of these for roasting and selling coffee, it could be a good way to learn at a low entry cost and then resell for a significant portion of the original purchase price when the time comes to move up to larger (or outsource roasting work once suitable roast profiles and blends have been developed). I have no experience of commercial roasting, so anyone with more experience please feel free to correct me where I am wrong

tsaxon · October 2012

Hi Bean Flying I just joined to express interest in this roaster. I have been chatting to John via email, contemplating purchasing this roaster. I currently have the Gene Cafe but looking to upgrade to a slightly larger capacity roaster. How is the roaster holding up? Are you still happy with built quality, tweakability, consistency of roasts? This sounds like a really dumb question but I cannot figure out how all the beans fall out into the cooling tray when you open door, as the drum seems to be sitting horizontally. I must be missing something? Thank you.

zane · October 2012

The thing (one of anyway) i like about the look of this unit is the profile where Tim (BeanFlying) has shown a couple of roasts on the same chart that demonstrate a reasonably high level of consistency (reply #76). The unit certainly appears to be adequately tweak-able with regard to profile with nice simple & solid electrics. The 2kg discaf recently for sale has similar drum volume & claims to roast a larger mass with fewer kW (don't stab me please RM), to me this may indicate the CCR has adequate power to mass ratio for a range of roasts on the snappier side rather than the bakey-er side (which is a style preference i know, but one i happen to like the possibility of), ie. no huge claims re. capacity, which is also nice John was very helpful in answering my queries re. build & communicated with me and the factory to resolve any questions. I'll certainly post here when the unit arrives & i've had some opportunity to get it running.

tsaxon · October 2012

Hi guys, thanks for the responses, really helpful. It is reassuring to know the level of consistency the roaster has and tweakability as well. I have looked at the very helpful photos as well and the 'innards' seems sturdy and of commercial quality - would you agree Tim? I know the finish outside is not as nice as the European machines but I could care less about that. As long as the essential components are built to last I will be happy.

Kevohere · October 2012

Thanks Bean Flying and all the other contributors to this thread, for some very interesting and informative info about this roaster. In as much, it has re-installed the "upgradeitis" virus into my system. :coffee2: I have been looking at the 500gm unit John has on the bay and emailed him. The 1kg unit being ideal for doing larger roasts, but it pulled me up price-wise. Having five 650W heating elements, it seems the 500gm unit would be capable of easily doing 500gms or more, based on BF's "rough boundaries" test roasts with the (5) 700W elements in the CCR-1kg. The max 1lb capacity of my well-used and aged Behmor was always a struggle, so 350gms became my preferred roasting "zone". 8) Just needing some more twisting of the arm and I'm there. :rofl: Cheers

lemoo · October 2012

if i didnt need a 15amp plug i would've probably already have one

Kevohere · October 2012

That's an excuse :question: Haven't got a 15 amp plug either, but that's fairly easily rectified with a sparkie in the family.

lemoo · October 2012

indeed it is hahahaha

Kevohere · October 2012

Tis Done (the deal) :exclaim: :exclaim: Take possession on Wednesday. ;D Christmas present to self. ^-^ I am not sure if I will get much of an opportunity to "play" much as I still need to arrange a 15amp outlet, Christmas is quickly honing in and I will be away for 6 weeks from Boxing Day. Big Kev(ohere)'s excited! :thumb:

lemoo · October 2012

congrats! would love to see it in action with lots of pics and videos

askthecoffeeguy · October 2012

I've been thinking about the 500g unit myself and was wondering if they're juice guzzlers?

Kevohere · October 2012

on 1350876748:

congrats! would love to see it in action with lots of pics and videos

Picked it up last night and had the allen key working this afternoon to have "look" and also "clean up" a couple of panels with dodgy paint work.

Not a major issue... bit it HAS gotta look nice, eh? :D Still need to install the 15 amp outlet, support bench and basically expand/improve on my Behmore roasting station. Although it's in the back of the garage and John says fumes are not excessive, I'd prefer to fit an exhaust duct. See what I can come up with re pics and videos as soon as I get going. I will soon be out of the country for 6 weeks, so Feb is going to be more like the real play/kick-off time at the moment.

First step is to go back and re-read this thread to get a clearer understanding of BF's notations and (others') comments under my hat. :thumb:

Brett H · October 2012

on 1350980439:

Picked it up last night and had the allen key working this afternoon to have "look" and also "clean up" a couple of panels with dodgy paint work. Not a major issue... bit it HAS gotta look nice, eh? :D Still need to install the 15 amp outlet, support bench and basically expand/improve on my Behmore roasting station. Although it's in the back of the garage and John says fumes are not excessive, I'd prefer to fit an exhaust duct. See what I can come up with re pics and videos as soon as I get going. I will soon be out of the country for 6 weeks, so Feb is going to be more like the real play/kick-off time at the moment. First step is to go back and re-read this thread to get a clearer understanding of BF's notations and (others') comments under my hat. :thumb:

Bloody good show mate! Can't wait o see he pics!!

zane · November 2012

So its here, but i have yet to quite get the control board figured... seems like the kW draw according to the compliance plate is a little more than i'd anticipated... looking forward to getting it plugged in & roasting, i'll post some updates when its all happening & hopefully a vid of the action; excited~!

UNM · November 2012

that plate does say 105kW doesn't it? possibly a tad over optimistic

frame

Howdy, Stranger!

Howdy, Stranger!

Categories

In this Discussion

CCR-1kg Coffee Roaster

Comments

foot

Policies

Social

frame

Howdy, Stranger!

Howdy, Stranger!

Quick Links

Categories

In this Discussion

CCR-1kg Coffee Roaster

Comments

foot

Policies

Social